RM92: John Jones v Suffolk County 2nd Circuit

RM92: John Jones v Suffolk County 2nd Circuit

Episode 92 has us speaking about three significant decisions that impact the registrant community. We slice and dice them to get the most complete understanding of the decisions.

Philly DA Krasner has found many that are serving long prison sentences are innocent; Homeless man beaten to death for resembling someone on the registry; The Terror Screening Database (TWDB) found to be unconstitutional – which is good for us; A woman in a Colorado jail gives birth completely alone, while screaming in pain – received no medical attention in her cell; 2nd Circuit decision about Parents For Megans Law found constitutional – disappointing – but accurate; Utah man’s children recant their testimony is exonerated, released from prison and received 350k for his vacation;

[4:20] https://www.cbsnews.com/news/philadelphia-district-attorney-larry-krasner-exonerates-nine-people-in-19-months/

[13:10] https://pix11.com/2019/09/03/men-mistook-homeless-man-for-sex-offender-beat-him-to-death-police-say/

[19:10] https://apnews.com/f8abc66af1a64cc7a5f4fba0420cfc54
Elhady v Kable_Watch List_2019

[53:00] https://www.wbur.org/hereandnow/2019/09/05/colorado-jail-woman-birth-lawsuit

[1:01:10] http://www.ca2.uscourts.gov/decisions/isysquery/8f15988e-f168-40e5-bb14-d607a5feb0b1/1/doc/18-1602_opn.pdf#xml=http://www.ca2.uscourts.gov/decisions/isysquery/8f15988e-f168-40e5-bb14-d607a5feb0b1/1/hilite/
John Jones v Suffolk County_Second Circuit 2019

[1:18:50] https://www.sltrib.com/news/2019/09/06/utah-man-deemed-innocent/

[1:23:40] USA v Rouse_Eighth Circuit

[1:30:00] Listener question from Johnathan regarding being at his kids school for pickup/dropoff and other school functions

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2 thoughts on “RM92: John Jones v Suffolk County 2nd Circuit

  1. I live in suffolk county and pfml comes to my door twice a year they will call ahead of time and ask when i will be home, when they come by they are polite will apologize if they interupt whatever i am doing like dinner or such, takes 2 minutes and they are gone i would rather that then having a spitefull suffolk county LE knocking on my door at 2 in the morning or swat team or pd in riot gear with a half dozen cop cars out in front of my home they dress like salesmen and drive normal cars going on 5 years with them! Dont get me wrong i dont like any of this! but it is what it is.

  2. Vincent makes an important point here. If they are polite about it, that’s a good thing. He’s also right about it being better than police showing up in tactical gear like they’re coming after a serial killer and drawing all kinds of unwarranted and unwanted attention. They call ahead and are quick. That’s not bad. I had this vision of a bunch of egotistical and aggressive jerks just being really tacky and adversarial. Vincent has no reason to lie about how he has been treated by members of PFML. I imagine if they are treated respectfully, they reply in kind. PFML members who do these checks have to be former law enforcement, if I remember correctly. That is a plus in that they know how to detach their emotions and be objective..at least more so than many private citizens would be in this situation.

    I don’t support any of it, but I prefer a low-key approach to the spectacle sideshow law enforcement tends to make out of compliance checks. We’ve all heard about police leaving very conspicuous and humiliating door hangers as a means to humiliate and retaliate against registrants because they weren’t home at the time.

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